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Paul Tillich vs. John Howard Yoder
Colin Gunton vs. Walter Kasper
Half-time up-date:
6 - 3 to Tillich and
2 - 6 to Gunton so far, but a lot can still happen in these games.
Final Results:
10 - 8 Winner Paul Tillich
12 - 5 Winner Colin Gunton
Group Standings:
Colin Gunton 3 +7
Paul Tillich 3 +2
John Howard Yoder 0 -2
Walter Kasper 0 -7
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21 comments:
Paul Tillich
Walter Kasper
Well, the first one was dead easy, I'll probably put Tillich before some of the apostels... No one as he realized that the point of theology is to be relevant.
Kasper gets my vote for the ecumenic work. I'm not expert on either.
Tillich
Kasper
This one is easy as I am familiar with these two but not Yoder or Gunton. Looks like I have me an investimigation to undertake!
Yoder
Gunton
The first match is easier - I have a great preference for Yoder over Tillich. I've read lots of Gunton and like him, but only a little of Kaspar (but a also like him).
Tillich
Gunton
I personally like Yoder more, but Tillich is a more accomplished systematic theologian. Tillich's theology is suspect through and through; relevancy does not make one right. Gunton is the best of this entire bunch, hands down. We lost a great theologian with his untimely death.
Yoder
Gunton
This is fun! (I felt much too ignorant of the teams in the other groups to venture a vote at all).
Tillich (even if i rarely agree with him, his work on culture is of utmost importance)
tough with the second, but I'll go with my limited knowledge of Gunton over my limited knowledge of Kasper
Yoder.
Gunton.
I have some serious doubts about including Yoder in a discussion of "systematic" theologians. However, I have been highly influenced by Yoder, I believe that his theology is of a better quality than Tillich's, and since he has been included, I'll vote for him.
tillich
gunton
like you said...tillich is a given (regardless of whether one agrees wholeheartedly with him). Gunton was brilliant, amd his work on the trinity is a must...
Tillich
?
Tillich is like the Brazilians and will always be a contender for the Cup!
6 - 3 to Tillich and
2 - 6 to Gunton so far, but a lot can still happen in these games. Keep voting!
Yoder
Gunton
Gunton's contributions in trinitarian thought make him a must. Yoder's ongoing influence through Hauerwas puts him more narrowly ahead (sorry Patrik).
Paul Tillich
Walter Kasper (Gunton annoys me too much with all his pedantic criticisms of Barth...)
Gunton annoys me too much with all his pedantic criticisms of Barth
Looks like Barth is already making his absence felt... Ben's still grumpy about his omission. Feels a little like the Moscow Olympics.
Tillich
Kasper
Gunton and Yoder every time ...
Yoder
Kasper
Gunton's (mis)reading of Augustine automatically disqualifies him imho. Nevertheless, a great theologian. But Kasper gets the vote.
Yoder
Gunton
Ooh, good call, Byron!
Yoder
Gunton
Theologically I'm definitely more Yoder than Tillich, but you've got to give Tillich his due, if only as a challenging sparring partner. Besides, Yoder's influence will be felt in Hauerwas' games.
Colin G. was a friend and colleague; he was also a fine theologian, outstanding even, but lacking je ne sais quoi - eye-catching originality? And, yes, Gaunilo, his heavy-handed reading of Augustine contributed to the fashionable Bishop of Hippo-bashing which has only begun to subside with the rise of Radical Orthodoxy. Still . . .
Kasper? I remember reading his Theology and Church (1987) - but I don't remember a thing about it! And, yes, tremendous contributions to ecumenical theology, but the recent shot across the bows to the Church of England over women bishops . . .
Bottom line: Tillich and Gunton
Voting closed.
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